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Future or No-Future?

Now that's a headline I had no clue that I'd ever use! Too dramatic, maybe? I'll let you be the judge. Apparently, the future is “A.I.” and there is nothing to be fearful of…

Even the US President is boasting openly about it, and no figure he ever mentions seems to have fewer than ten trailing zeros. No bad thing when it comes to medical research, I'd adjoin with. However, the real power behind these megalithic goals is simply information, aka data, more often than not, everyone else's…

The are at least two weaknesses. One is in Webmasters like myself not being able to protect their information from such predatory theft. Another is that no real check is made on the veracity of any information that is stolen. So the old “GIGO” adage will become more true than ever!

Up to now, I've been confident that Copyright laws are strong enough to withstand most thefts of information. However, what if that was no longer true? From what I've experienced recently, I believe that the days of this being a meaningful protection may have passed.

Open Season

What's happening is that harvesting robots are scraping their “data” from everywhere they can. Read scraping as stealing everything in sight, totally flouting any basic rules that Webmasters set for well behaved robots. We mostly want to help Web robots because they index our content and usually bring new visitors in their wake. These parasites do nothing but grab, without so much as an acknowledgement!

Because it's a future that, mostly we don't understand, these thieves, for that is what they are, feel entitled to harvest any and all information they can get their grubby mits onto. Oh, they're totally brazen about it! So, it's open season for attacks on any and every Web site out there.

You might think, so what? Not content with flouting all accepted standards, the pesky blighters have issued millions of prying spies. The Timeline has been adversely hit every four seconds by them. What's even more worrying is that many of these pests employ “advanced technology” so they look for and take everything!

From China came a robot that took 58 pages of information and used over 12Mb of bandwidth in just seconds. As a human visitor, you would really struggle to download anywhere near that amount of bandwidth from such a small page count.

From what I can glean, the stolen information is stored, then processed in advanced databases. Eventually it will be presented as if the thieves were the originators. I seriously doubt that it will be free to obtain or view at that point.

Of course, all the work to display the information in a readable fashion will have already been done, by me, before their raid. So they're also making use of the fact that all the Timeline pages validate to W3C standards. This just adds insult to injury.

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Powerless

That's legalised plagiarism, I hear you say. Well, yes it is, however it's not at all legal! The problem being, where am I going to find sufficient funds to fend off these mega-buck pirates? At one time Google was the best friend of the small guy like myself.

Sadly, it seems that they might now be leading this tussle. Their robots have not always been well behaved and certainly not obeying limits. The attitude now taken elsewhere being that if Google can get away with it, so can they.

So, what's the impact of all this? Well, the feeling of being utterly powerless is extended to cover what is likely to happen to over 25 years of painstaking research. I won't dwell on costs, because interactions with visitors more than compensate for any financial outlay I have made.

As you probably know, my approach to recording information has been as meticulous as I can manage. There are bound to be errors, that's a given, but once the information leaves these pages those errors are baked in. It just adds to the undermining aspects.

The biggest question is: Where do I go from here? The odds are completely against me. For example, I'm at a point of probably purchasing the 1958 crew records from the National Archive at Kew. No small outlay, with not much change out of £800. This gives me the opportunity to take the crew lists forward by 2 years from where I once thought they had ended.

Having got quite good at this transcription thing, I was looking forward to the challenges they present. No matter that it's many hours of transcription work, there's a satisfying achievement at the end. However, now I need to consider whether it's worth doing, only for some pesky blighters to not only steal the work, but also go on to claim it as their own.

A key aspect of this is, that when it comes to the archive content, no-one in “officialdom” realises that the surviving official records do not record the full names of the crew, only their family name and initial(s). When the records come to me, having built so much of a back-catalogue, I'm able to match a family name and occupation, and where they have previously travelled, insert absent full names. This instead of perpetuating just family name and initials. Most “people” searches on the Web involve full names.

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The Impacts

Let's start with devastating! I cannot bear liars and thieves. Their actions always hit you so personally, and of course, they are oblivious to any impact. In my study there are over 35 foolscap file boxes, mostly filled to capacity. The Timeline, not only being the collection catalogue but a source of added information that has grown and grown and, I believed, added value to the ephemera.

I have laboured under the belief that one would always accompany the other as a valuable social history archive, especially as the Timeline records so many first-hand experiences from so many sources. Now I'm wondering whether any of it has any value. I'm even wondering whether sharing this information was a mistake, though of course, I'd no inkling that it might lead to this outcome.

Archived by the British Library

Following my previous remarks on this topic and my profound disappointment surrounding their involvement elsewhere in our field, I can announce that I too have been approached by the British Library. Sadly, the limit of their involvement is to fulfil nothing more than the bare minimum of their legal obligation: to archive sites with a British domain or topic.

What are the implications? Well, the archived pages won't be indexed, or even be searchable on key engines like Google. They are most emphatically barred! The biggest bringer of new visitors to the Timeline are from Google searches for former travellers. Lots of names on crew and passenger lists brings lots of visitors.

With so many thousands of names recorded, that's not likely to diminish any time soon. Yes, having an archived copy is better than nothing, but its static status more or less defeats its object. When visitors come searching for people they know of, the Timeline then goes on to provide them with an opportunity to vicariously live their life, even if it's just for a week!

Recently I received feedback from a visitor bemoaning the absence of a photograph of Caronia's designer, George McLeod Paterson. Luckily, my correspondent was able to point me toward a suitable source. This puzzled me a bit because I felt certain that I had previously searched for such a photograph. Trying this as a search recently proved to be completely fruitless!

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Future Provision

The real future of the Timeline has to be as a live site, hosted in an environment where its pages can be indexed and also supported by its own search facilities. The biggest drawback to a static archive is that potential visitors will need an obligatory and important first step in their knowledge. Just as my correspondent did in knowing of an archive that I was totally unaware of, or able to search!

I'm happy to report that I've been able to make arrangements for the Timeline to continue into the foreseeable future. The ideal situation is that museums take on board the need for provision of a “live” site to match the needs of future researchers interested in genealogy or in maritime history. Life is currently not made easy for us who find ourselves in this position. I'm certainly not alone!

Caronia Reunions

Regular Caronia Reunions are now held at the…
Banister Park Bowling Club, Stoneham Lane, Eastleigh.

Despite my having fairly frequent enquiries about Caronia Reunions in the past, it appears that, other than the current regular meetings in Eastleigh, it's unlikely that another formally organised event will be held.

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Copyright Matters

As the information content and popularity of the Timeline has grown, so have the instances of unscrupulous people in trying to steal it. Please be aware that anyone using “off-line” browser software is urged to carefully read the Copyright page before attempting to use that software here.

The copyright content of the Timeline is very clearly indicated and it's a situation that I monitor constantly. Be warned: I take a very dim view of people who don't observe its Terms of Use!

Caronia's propellor wash seen from the docking bridge
An evocative scene for all former Caronia travellers, her propeller wash seen from the docking bridge
Image: The late Bill Harris - Peter Stevens Collection
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Information Appeal
Former Crew

Recent history has probably taken its share of former Caronia crew. Every loss is a tragedy, but when it's indiscriminately forced, it's all the more poignant. My appeal to you survivors is simple. Let's be hearing from you while it's still possible!

I'm looking for any snippet of information that I have probably missed, or simply not known about. I'm not looking for long essays or anything the like. Nothing has to be in just one email and there's no need to worry about grammar or spelling. Between us, we can probably work out a way.

Recording this stuff is vital! You'd not believe just how interested visitors are to read these stories that bring our past to life. My feedback box is full of wonderful compliments and it's mostly “your” stories that generate such responses.

Caronia Interior Photographs

If anyone has photographs of any areas inside Caronia, then I'm always happy to receive them. For example, there's a dearth of photographs of her galley, the laundry and the Main Deck square, to give just 3 examples.

Voyage Log Cards

One piece of feedback I often receive is how pleased people are to see the voyage trace maps of Caronia's transatlantic crossings. Do you have any of these voyage logs that you could scan to enable me to add more of these to the site?

Full credit will be given for any contributions that you can make. Many thanks!

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Work in Progress

This section gives an insight into what's in the pipeline for adding to the Timeline in the near future. The idea being that if you have information that could be added during the process of building or extending a topic, it would be really good to hear from you.


Caronia
A bird's eye view

04 November 2025

Following recent acquisition of 96 photographs from the 1957 Great World Cruise, I'll be adding photo strip pages of 4 to 6 images to feature these…
Crew Lists

For years I have laboured under the belief that Caronia's crew lists, beyond June 1957, were permanently lost. Just recently, I've had it confirmed that these do exist and I'm now exploring possibilities.

Crew Lists Appeal

At the time of writing, I'm exploring the possibilities around purchasing scans for the 36 remaining voyages in order to complete the picture. It means investing nearly £6,000 (GBP) over the next 11 months. Crew Lists Appeal - Can you help?

PaxLists

Amazingly, I currently have no more lists available to transcribe. I'm always on the lookout for copies of Cunard's lists, but they are now few and far between.

Few Disappointments

During its construction I have been fortunate enough to have found many rare items. One of the few disappointments has been to still have just 4 Caronia brochures missing from completing the set. If there's anyone that can help…

Missing Brochures List
  • 1951 World Cruise
  • 1953 W.Indies Summer
  • 1954 W.Indies Winter
  • 1958 W.Indies Summer
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Latest Caronia Timeline Updates

How am I doing? If there's any comments you'd like to make about these updates, do please get in touch!

Latest Additions 2026

30 July 2026

09 July 2026

18 June 2026

17 June 2026

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09 June 2026

Earlier Timeline updates can be found in the Updates Archive. These go back as far as June 2009

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Page last updated on Thu, 30 Jul 2026

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