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September 1965

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The Gay Scene
(Preface)

I need to preface my remarks here because of the massive interim changes in both the law and in attitudes toward the homosexual male, or LGBT gay person in the modern idiom. The legislation making homosexuality legal in Great Britain, at least for consenting adults of 21 yrs of age or older, passed into Law late in 1965.

Twenty-one was still the age of majority in the UK in those days, and you needed to be 21 to buy alcohol in a public place in the USA (This latter I believe still applies in some States). I've put this preface in because in this header I want to describe attitudes and actions as they were then, and how I recollect them.

I am walking a tightrope here with my primary need to keep the Timeline suitable for anyone of a reading age, though I'm not averse to discussing adult topics. My emphasis on the Timeline has been to concentrate upon the evocative, as usually happens on such a site.

Next Month: A Storm

The topic about gays is on this page because when the new legislation was passed, Caronia was in Belfast undergoing a major refit during the months of November and December 1965, for which there are no Timeline pages. As will be seen, it's not a topic to be skirted around, but on next month's page comes the description of a memorable storm.

1965 Summer Mediterranean Cruise pamphlet
Summer Mediterranean Cruise 1965 pamphlet
Quirky Characters

On most of the larger liners there was the usual group of gay men. There was a joke about there being so many queers on board the Queen Mary that she had to leave port backwards!

Notice that this was the QM; the Lizzie, as the Queen Elizabeth was known, would never have featured in such a quip. The irony being that, of the two, it was “the Mary” that was the more well-loved ship; the quip would have been meant with a hint of endearment.

Some of these guys, both young and old, were really quirky characters! One recollection is of a guy we all called “the cleaner girl”. Girl? In fact he was a middle-aged man. While booze was very cheap on board, there was no tolerance of drunkenness, especially in “the Pig”.

You'd often encounter him (her?) in the ship's working alleyway after being evicted from the crew bar because he'd had a few too many ginger ales. His “trick” was to stop you, point an angrily wagged finger at you and claim: “I'm gonna cuhleeeeen you!!” This was backed up with quite an evil look, at which point you'd just fall about laughing, and walk on…

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Tacit Ambivalence

To me, as a teenager who back then thought that anyone over 30 was old, and over 50 was positively ancient, the “queers” fell into two camps (no pun intended). There were the fun “young gay guys” and the “old queens”. As in all walks of life, most people were “the salt of the earth”, and others clearly were not.

Generally speaking, from the crew there was a tacit ambivalence toward “the LGBT queers” on board. The term was rarely used kindly. I've often wondered why, as I'd always been treated with respect. Certainly, at no time did I ever feel threatened.

Picking Your Moments

Ashore in those days, homosexuality was pursued as a criminal offence, often by policemen with an attitude problem. Going to sea was an option that gave a “safer” alternative for homosexuals to follow their instincts. However, some care was needed as being too forthright could very quickly alienate people!

On board Caronia, being openly camp and gay could be equated to the tricky attitude given to fraternising with passengers. “Getting away with it” was a question of picking the right moments. While the crew had one attitude, the passengers had another that was a fair bit more tolerant.

Suits You Sir, Suits You!

For some folk the gay guys were simply too much of a challenge and nothing could ever be done to mediate their homophobia, even to this day! However, there was probably more aggravation between factions from various regions of the British Isles than there was twixt gay and straight guys.

Curiously, the former seemed to have an incredibly clever knack of persuading the latter to dress up, quite often in some silly and / or risqué outfits with barely a murmur of complaint!

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The Sandringham section of the 1966 Wareham & Bergen Trophy parade. I have a suspicion that this chap's smile is through gritted teeth!
[Photo Ref CW012: Courtesy of Chris Griffiths]

The ship would have been a much duller place without many of these guys. The best crew parties were always held in “the queer cabins”. Whilst at sea we'd be at work for anything up to 12 hours a day, over three split shifts, which made it feel like you were working 18 hours a day. A gay party invite was rarely, if ever, turned down!

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Work Hard? Play Harder!

So there was clearly a culture that if we're going to work hard, then we'll play harder! The only time we'd get any proper sleep anyway was between 2pm and 6pm, and if we were lucky, during the corresponding hours of the morning. From that, you'll gather that being allocated an afternoon tea watch was not popular!

The gay guys were adored by the passengers! A feature of Caronia for them was that some found her almost as cheap to populate as it was to rent an apartment on Fifth Avenue, New York. The Great World Cruise was nothing but a wealthy person's floating country-club with many travellers returning year after year.

Lavish Passenger Parties

These “resident” travellers would cheerfully “adopt” their room stewards, some of whom had also made Caronia their home for many years. With this massive “US$ power” behind them, some lived almost like tin gods. They were definitely a force to be reckoned with! Not all of them were gay, but many probably were.

I'll allude to this a bit more elsewhere, but there's only one place that the term “Oliver's Court” came from. There was plenty of competition between passengers on who could throw the most lavish party. On the face of it, they were all arranged through the Purser's office.

Go On - Indulge Yourself!

Pursers may have been involved in preparing the bill afterwards but the real driving force behind these affairs were nearly always gay guys who were given carte-blanche to indulge their wildest fantasies and with no expense spared!

The parties were invariably themed, so guess who'd be consulted on what to wear? The stewards would even suggest which were the most fun passengers to place on the guest list. All told, vying for the best theme would be as much twixt the stewards as between the passengers themselves.

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Main Lounge decorated for a Sayonara Ball
18 April 1960.
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[Photo Ref: RWA008 © Robin Almond]

More Dressing Up?

Forget the crew, the Cruise Staff aboard also provided plenty of “dressing-up” opportunities for the passengers at various themed balls. If anyone was a bit doubtful about what to wear, well, who was on hand to advise? Let's see…

Given the very wide boundaries, hours and hours, often of spare time, would be spent decorating suites, staterooms or even public rooms, and guess who'd be unofficial judges advising the host or hostess about whom to award the prizes to?

Oh, and it wasn't the Purser's or Chief Steward's departments who assigned stewards to serve drinks and canapés at these affairs either. Be in no doubt, the ship would have been a much duller place without the wild imaginations and sheer flair of these guys!

Keeping A Low Profile
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When it came to any form of on-board entertainment the gay guys were in their element, and it paid to keep a low profile! I didn't, so I got collared to do a Kenneth Horne sketch from the popular Round the Horne radio show.

In those days it was broadcast every Sunday on the BBC Home Service after Family Favourites, possibly one of the most listened-to shows of the week.

These “…and this is my friend Sandy” shows included some hilarious sketches, all couched in brazen Polari. Can you imagine my parents’ faces when I attempted to explain some of the terms I was chuckling at, as it was broadcast? Sadly, they were more bemused than amused.

I'd recorded a few of these shows whilst ashore, and used to play them quite regularly in the cabin as a wind-up. Even today, they are so cleverly written they've never lost their brand of humour.

However, this backfired on me, because I found myself hi-jacked to go on stage in Caronia's theatre, appearing in a parody of one of these sketches for two crew shows and two passenger shows during one of the “hate weeks” on the 1966 Great World Cruise.


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The Bergen Extravaganza

Very few stewards (or commis waiters for that matter) were able to escape from being roped-in for the annual adventure in Bergen on the North Cape cruise. Apart from the football match played twixt the two restaurants for the “Wareham and Bergen Trophies” there was the matter of a grand parade from ship to stadium.

Every year there was a different theme. The fierce rivalry between the two restaurants was by no means limited to the football field! For weeks there was frantic, and secret, preparation to put on the best show for the parade to the football ground.

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A Mock Burial-at-Sea

While most of the day's action happened in the parade ashore, in costumes made by guess who, on leaving Bergen, a very well choreographed burial ceremony was held at sea after the dinner service. This to mock the losing team.

There's No Pleasing Everybody!

When the legislation legalising homosexuality in the UK was passed late in 1965, I was working on the RMS Windsor Castle as an Officers Steward whilst the Caronia was in refit at Belfast. I'd got to know a gay guy on the adjacent station quite well.

This was because of a pair of rather silly passengers who'd not considered that one of us daft Englishmen might understand their almost constant bickering. This among themselves, spoken in French, and usually about the quality of service or the food.

An Early Lesson!

They had also been particularly rude about this guy, whom I covered for during “smokoe” breaks, but that's another story.

I clearly remember asking him about the new legislation, thinking that he'd probably be pleased. Imagine my surprise when, with a dramatic sweep of an arm, he replied “Oh no Darling! They've taken all the fun out of it now!!” Clearly there's no pleasing everybody…

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01 September 1965

At Sea
Eastbound transatlantic
Steaming New York to Funchal, Madeira 2,761 miles

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01 Sept Rotarians Meeting Attendees List

Where's The Daily Information?

At regular intervals down this page you'll find links to the Virtual Summer Mediterranean Cruise. These links take you to pages that carry the daily programme and port information images, along with a few port vignettes too. It keeps this page tidy and allows you to follow an unobstructed virtual cruise as they flow from day-to-day.

ROTTEN TO THE COREFeaturing: Eric Sykes | Charlotte Rampling at 4.30 & 9.30pm

02 September 1965
03 September 1965

At Sea
Steaming N.East Funchal, Madeira to Tangier 585 miles

THE ART OF LOVEFeaturing: James Garner | Dick Van Dyke at 4.30 & 9.30pm

04 September 1965
05 September 1965

Sunday At Sea
Traversing Mediterranean Eastbound
Tangier to Venice 1,689 miles

CHALK GARDENFeaturing: Hayley Mills | Deborah Kerr at 4.30 & 9.30pm

06 September 1965
07 September 1965

At Sea
Traversing Mediterranean Eastbound
Tangier to Venice 1,689 miles

ROMAN ADVENTUREFeaturing: Troy Donahue | Angie Dickinson at 4.30 & 9.30pm

08 September 1965
09 September 1965
10 September 1965

At Sea
Steaming South Venice to Syracuse 658 miles

THE BEDFORD INCIDENTFeaturing: Richard Widmark | Sidney Poitier at 4.30 & 9.30pm

11 September 1965

Arrive Syracuse 7am - Depart Noon

Virtual Summer Mediterranean Cruise at Syracuse & Messinaat Sicily

Steam to Messina 70 miles

Arrive Messina 6pm - Depart 8pm
Steam to Naples 175 miles

THE GENERAL Star: Buster Keaton

Pass Island of Stromboli with its volcano at 11pm. On this evening Strómboli was quite active and an amazing sight from Caronia's port side.

12 September 1965
13 September 1965

Depart Naples 5pm
Steam N.West to Villefranche 368 miles

ROYAL TOUR OF INDIA Documentary at 9.30pm

14 September 1965
15 September 1965

Depart Villefranche 6pm
Steam to Barcelona 270 miles

Travel Talk Barcelona Followed by series of short films at 9.30pm

16 September 1965

Arrive Barcelona 9am - Depart 10pm
Steaming South Barcelona to Palma 133 miles

Virtual Summer Mediterranean Cruise at Barcelonaat Barcelona

TIGER BAYFeaturing: Hayley Mills | John Mills at 9.30pm

17 September 1965

Arrive Palma 7.30am - Depart 12.30pm

Virtual Summer Mediterranean Cruise at Palmaat Palma

Steam Palma to Motril 360 miles

HOBSON'S CHOICEFeaturing: Charles Laughton | John Mills at 4.30 & 9.30pm

18 September 1965

Arrive Motril 8am

Disembark overland tour - Depart 9.30am
Steam Motril to Málaga 44 miles

Virtual Summer Mediterranean Cruise at Motril, Málaga & Gibraltarat Motril & Málaga

Arrive Málaga 12.30pm - Depart 2am next morning
Steam to Málaga Gibraltar 66 miles

BATTLE OF VILLA FIORITAFeaturing: Rossano Brazzi | Maureen O'Hara at 9.30pm

19 September 1965

Sunday Arrive Gibraltar 7am - Depart 2pm

Gibraltar as Caronia approaches
The Rock of Gibraltar from the Caronia 19 Sept 1965
[Photo: Peter Stevens]

Virtual Summer Mediterranean Cruise at Motril, Málaga & Gibraltarat Gibraltar

Steaming North Gibraltar to Lisbon 302 miles

MIRAGEFeaturing: Gregory Peck | Diane Baker at 4.30 & 9.30pm

20 September 1965
21 September 1965

At Lisbon

Depart Lisbon 2pm
At Sea
Steaming Lisbon to New York 2,980 miles

TOPKAPIFeaturing: Melina Mercouri | Maximillian Schell at 4.30 & 9.30pm

There was a crew showing of Topkapi at 11.30pm. The film's plot was quite a sensation at the time. Being firmly held in Caronia's theatre seats was very welcome, as we were into the rough seas of the Bay of Biscay by this hour.

22 September 1965

At Sea
Westbound transatlantic
Steaming Lisbon to New York 2,980 miles

Virtual Summer Mediterranean Cruise transatlantic to New YorkTransatlantic

HIGH WIND IN JAMAICAFeaturing: Anthony Quinn | James Coburn at 4.30 & 9.30pm

23 September 1965
24 September 1965

At Sea
Westbound Transatlantic
Steaming Lisbon to New York 2,980 miles

THE SEDUCTION OF JULIAFeaturing: Lilli Palmer | Charles Boyer at 4.30 & 9.30pm

Passenger and Crew Talent Show held in Main Lounge at 10.15pm

25 September 1965
26 September 1965

Sunday At Sea
Westbound transatlantic
Steaming Lisbon to New York 2,980 miles

THE TRAINFeaturing: Burt Lancaster | Paul Schofield at 4.30pm

TIGER BAYFeaturing: Hayley Mills | John Mills at 9.30pm

27 September 1965
28 September 1965

At New York

29 September 1965

Depart New York for Southampton without passengers

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